Carl Radke Clarifies What Really Happened in That Uber with Danielle

When reality TV drama gets rehashed on a spinoff show, you know things are about to get messy. Carl Radke, 41, decided to set the record straight about a moment from Summer House season 4 that’s been making the rounds again on In the City, the Manhattan-based spinoff where his ex-fiancée Lindsay Hubbard recently brought up some old claims about him and former costar Danielle Olivera.

Here’s the thing: Carl isn’t denying anything happened. Instead, he’s splitting hairs in a way that’s almost endearingly specific. In an interview with Variety published Tuesday, June 9, he explained that during a ride back from Montauk that season, Danielle was, in his words,“rubbing me over my pants, which is called an OTPHJ — over-the-pants handjob.”His key point? It wasn’t a“real handjob,”and according to Carl, everyone involved knew it at the time. The distinction matters to him, apparently.

What makes this interesting is the timeline. Carl and Lindsay started dating in 2022, got engaged that same year, and called off the wedding in 2023. But this Uber incident happened way back in 2019, when Carl and Lindsay were still in the early stages of“exploring dating.”So when Danielle made moves on him a week later, Carl frames it as something that happened openly with no real shadiness—a moment discussed repeatedly over multiple seasons of Summer House and now resurrected on In the City’s premiere.

Danielle, 37, has been adamant about denying the whole thing. She posted on social media that it was“a lie then, it’s a lie now,”and when she spoke to Us Weekly, she said Carl told her the situation was overblown. Her recollection of their conversation? He said there was“some fooling around, like, in the back seat,”to which she responded that eighth graders do more on a dance floor. She also noted that Carl seemed happy for her pregnancy with boyfriend Eoin Heavey.

The real takeaway here isn’t about the specifics of what did or didn’t happen years ago. It’s that Carl wants everyone to know the terminology matters, that there was no deception at the time, and that he’s hoping to move past it all. He even gushed to Variety that Lindsay is“one of the greatest reality TV stars of all time”and expressed interest in appearing on a potential season 2 of In the City. Clearly, he’d rather focus on friendships than feuds—even if that means getting very precise about the details of a backseat moment from 2019.